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Youâre crushing it as a commercial real estate broker. Your biggest deal was for $62M!!
But then the housing market bottoms out and youâre forced to file for bankruptcy.
What then? How do you respond?
This was the dilemma Peter Maldonado (interestingly he has almost no social media) faced in March 2009.
15 years later, heâs the co-founder and CEO of Chomps, a meat stick company on pace to do $500M in revenue this year (!!)
Iâd make a meat joke⌠but Iâd probably butcher it đ
Last week, I sat down with Peter to learn from his story.
My top 9 takeaways:
1- Focus on ONE thing
Before declaring bankruptcy, Peter was involved in many things.
He bought and flipped houses. He sold real estate. He also started a food company called Frozen Fitness. âStretched thinâ is an understatement.
After he lost it all, he spoke with a mentor who told him the best way to create real wealth was to pick ONE thing and focus on being the best at it.
After interviewing many billionaires, Iâve found that to be true:
Larry Janesky â Basements
John Paul DeJoria â Haircare
Michael Hudner â Shipping Containers
Diversification is for wealth preservation and protection, not wealth creation.
2- Make what you wish existed
In 2011, Peter met his future business partner Rashid Ali.
Peter told him about his favorite snack as a kid (meat sticks), and his desire to make a healthier version that was high in protein, low in calories, and tasted just as good.
Rashid, who was working as a business operations consultant at the time, loved the idea. Just a few weeks later, they started Chomps as a side hustle.
When in doubt, solve your own problems. If you are willing to pay for a solution, itâs likely others are too.
3- Reverse engineer greatness
While Peter and Rashid both had a background in business, they faced one big problem:
They didnât know anything about the meat industry.
So what did they do?
They went to the store and bought all the meat sticks they could find. Then they looked at the USDA label, found the co-packer, and reached out to them (GENIUS!!)
They did the same thing when they were designing their branding. They dissected what their competitors were doing, took the best, put it together, and refined from there.
4- It doesnât need to be perfect
When I asked Peter what advice heâd give to beginning entrepreneurs, he said, âYou donât have to have things perfect before you bring them to market. Get it out as fast as possible, get feedback, and iterate from there.â
When he started his first food company Frozen Fitness, he spent so much time on the website that he didnât sell anything through it before shutting the company down.
Think NOW, not HOW!!
5- Donât recklessly go âall inâ
In Chompsâ first year, they made $35,000 in sales. The following year, they made $100k+.
But it was STILL just a side hustle.
It wasnât until they made $400k and consistently brought in profits that they went full-time.
This is something Iâve written about beforeâŚ
Itâs sexy to say you âburned the boatsâ and went all in.
But itâs much simpler (and realistic) to build a side hustle alongside your day job, hit your freedom number, and then jump ship if you want.
6- Customer vs. User
âThereâs a difference between who’s buying your product and whoâs using your product,â Peter said.
Users are the people who USE your product. Customers are the people who BUY your product.
For example, kids are the ones eating Chomps, but itâs their parents that are the ones who are buying it.
âMake sure your messaging and branding are speaking to your core CUSTOMERS.â
7- Innovation through simplification
âOur biggest innovation recently wasnât adding a new flavor,â Peter said. âIt was putting 8 single sticks into a bag. Now instead of grabbing a handful (2-3) sticks, theyâre buying a bag of 8.â
Chomps is intentional about keeping a limited product line. More flavor choices also mean more buyer indecision.
I LOVE this! In my own life, Iâm selling most of my real estate, reducing the amount of projects I take on, and saying ânoâ a lot more. Do less, but better.
8- Key numbers
Everyone and their grandma will tell you to be âdata-drivenâ.
But it IS super important. â Data informs every other decision we make,â Peter said. âIt tells us whoâs buying our product, how often theyâre buying, the intervals between each time they buy, what other brands are in their shopping cart, and which flavor they like best.â
Some key metrics they track:
Household Penetration – how many homes have our product? (10% of 160M homes)
Buy Rate – how much money people are spending on Chomps every year? (Chomps average cart order is ~$35)
Repeat Purchases – how many people buy again? (40% of Chomp’s customers return again)
From there, you can calculate your predicted revenue:
Ex: 16M x $35 = ~$560M
9- Partner strategically
In 2015, Chomps was doing $400k/year through e-commerce.
Then the daughter of a VP at Trader Joe’s tried it and loved it.
After closing Trader Joe’s by sending their product for free (âfree-fillsâ) – they did $4.3M in revenue (!!)
Even when COVID happened, and many retail stores limited the number of customers in their stores – Chomps wasnât fazed. It forced them to get creative about how to get new customers.
When the pandemic ended, Chomps was stronger than ever. They closed Whole Foods, Costco, and eventually Walmart.
This year, theyâre on pace to pass $400M.
Even though Chomps is on a rocketship, Peter knew heâd need to bring in strategic partners to take it to the next level.
âWe wanted to bring in a partner that we could learn from,â Peter said. âAnybody can cut a check, the real value they bring is the expertise and the things theyâre teaching us.â
All the other PE firms they talked to only talked about their successes. What Peter loved about the PE firm they chose (Stride) is they also talked about their failures and mistakes.
âAnyone can be a good partner when itâs all rosy. We want a partner with scar tissue, whoâs been there and is willing to roll their sleeves up when itâs not all good,â Peter said.
Rooting for you,
Noah đŽ
Ps. I love CHOMPS and am going to buy 3 people a year’s worth ($200 each) – Go follow Chomps on IG.
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