Updated September 2026. Originally published March 2017.
The short version: I paid $2,000 for Unleash the Power Within, flew to California, and walked out partway through. Tony is a great presenter, and for my friends the event was moving. For me it felt superficial: hours of dancing and fist-pumping, constant name-dropping, and an upsell into supplements and more seminars in the middle of the event. I asked for a refund. What I did after I left, and what I would change about the event, is below.
2026 update: People still ask me about this post more than almost any other. My answer has not changed: the courage to start does not come from an arena, it comes from a small uncomfortable ask you make today. That is the whole idea behind the Dollar Challenge and the Coffee Challenge in Million Dollar Weekend.
After paying $2,000 for a ticket to Unleash the Power Within…
After the 3-hour flight out to California…
After fully committing, with a completely open heart…
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I walked out of Tony Robbins’ seminar.
In this post, I will share why I went to Tony’s event, what it was like, and why I walked out. I will also show you what I did after I left, and what I learned from the whole experience.
If you’re skeptical of friends who say, “You have to go see Tony Robbins…”
If you’re on the fence about Unleash the Power Within ($2,000) or Date with Destiny ($5,000)…
This article is for you.
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“But doesn’t everyone LOVE Tony Robbins’ events? Are you just a hater?”
I know the diehard fans — the self-proclaimed Cult of Robbins who “drink the Kool-Aid” — are already having doubts about this article.
“This guy wasn’t truly committed. He didn’t do the work, because he was afraid. Now he just wants to act like he’s more enlightened than everyone else.”
None of that is true.
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I have a ton of respect for Tony Robbins. I’ve read (or listened to) several of his books. I’m amazed by what he does (I recently shared how he gets 1 million visitors per month), and wanted to experience his coaching in person. A lot of my friends are big TR fans, and they all gave strong endorsements for UPW.
I’m not “better than you” for walking out. I’m not writing this because I’m a sophisticated aristocrat who turns his nose up at self-help groups. At many points in my life, I’ve been a total mess. I’ve written about depression and addiction. I wrote about the most embarrassing and painful period of my life (then I published a book about it).
I put in the work. I’ve had a ton of failures, and a few huge successes, because I’m constantly trying new things. Like how I built an 8-figure business. Or how I intentionally gained 40 pounds in 2015, then got into the best shape of my life in 2016. It wasn’t easy to eat so much food, or to go to the gym every week, but I put in the effort to reach my goals. (You can read more about my goals in 2020).
I’ve read hundreds of books and taken action, because I am 100% in on improving myself. (Here are 18 books that changed my life). I’ve also publicly documented my self-improvement journey for the last 15 YEARS. If that’s not “doing the homework,” I don’t know what is.
I’ve attended a lot of paid seminars before, and loved them. A few events that changed my life were Gayle Hendricks’ Big Leap event and David Deida’s workshop. Both were three days long, 5–8 hours per day. I didn’t even consider walking out of either. I’ve even hosted my own seminars! Last September, my company AppSumo hosted our second annual conference, with over 200 attendees. I’m astonished Tony hosts events for 10,000 people at a time.
This article isn’t “fear-driven.” I committed to the event for seven hours. The only thing I was afraid of was wasting more time. Besides, I believe in helping people overcome their biggest fears — like talking to strangers, or starting a company. I now have had time to reflect on this experience.
Finally, Tony Robbins is one of my customers. In addition to Appsumo, I run a sister company called Sumo. Tony’s team uses our products. Do you really think I’m dumb enough to bash one of my highest profile customers? Hell no. This article is written with love.
In other words…
I’m not hating on Tony Robbins, or people who love his events.
I’m just defending a viewpoint few people ever bring up in public: the negative experience.
Most people are hesitant to talk about experiences that make us sound foolish. We diminish our losses, we downplay the bad stuff — especially if it goes against the crowd.
Think of Vegas.
Hardly anyone says, “I lost $2,000. It was a waste of time and money.”
We always say, “It was fun! Almost broke-even. Hashtag WORTH IT.”
For me, UPW wasn’t worth it.
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My Experience at “Unleash The Power Within”
In the days that lead up to the event, I felt nervous. The discomfort was reassuring.
I’m going in the right direction.
The two areas of my life I most wanted to tackle during the event were:
- How to better position myself to be in great relationships.
- How to create a work environment that continually motivates and excites me.
Before the seminar began, I had a chance to talk with my neighbors. One was a recovering Jehovah’s witness. The other was transitioning jobs in Los Angeles. We had a nice discussion about why we were there, what our struggles were, and what we hoped to get out of the seminar.
Then, Tony came out on stage.
Tony’s presentation skills were incredible. The guy has been doing this for 30 years, so I expected him to be good. He was great.
Some of the things Tony did really well:
- He encouraged us to meet our neighbors and keep each other excited.
- He kept participation super high. He continually asked everyone to raise their hand and say “I” if they agreed. He also let the audience finish a lot of his sentences (“The truth will set you ____”).
- He challenged us: “I’ll deliver but you have to promise to commit. If you sit down during the dancing, then you aren’t committed, and you aren’t going to get what you came for. Play full out with me.”
- He repeated things over and over to drive points home and increase retention. He also backed up his claims with statistics.
- He told great stories and incorporated a lot of humor.
Of course, there were some things he did NOT do so well…
- At times, he was all over the place. “Let’s work on what you’re afraid of… Now let’s talk about how to get anything you want… Focus, mean it, do it!“
- There was conflict of interest. There’s a day where we talk about health and nutrition… and then he sells supplements. Tony also mentions his other events, and encourages you to sign up for more seminars during the middle of UPW.
- He name-dropped and bragged constantly. Credibility markers are essential for a presenter to be taken seriously — especially with an audience of 10,000 people. And we all know Tony has done some amazing things. But the number of times he mentioned his relationships with presidents, celebrities, and business people was overkill. We get it — you have a private jet.
- Finally, Tony has the weirdest clap I’ve ever seen.

In the first few hours of the seminar, we danced (a lot), massaged our neighbors, fanned our neighbors, did aerobic exercises, pumped our fists, watched Tony run through the audience like some idol, and other ra-ra tactics.
Still, these were minor annoyances. Those come with any event. None were deal-breakers.
But as the day unfolded, I began to question whether this seminar was a good use of my time.
Tony called on people in the front row and recited their names. Which made it seem like he knew everyone in the audience, though I’m sure they were his VIP ($75K per year) customers.
He called on John.
“What’s your issue, John?”
John wasn’t loved.
Here was Tony’s response:
- Everyone in the crowd faces that issue.
- John should come up with a new name. “Edward.”
- “Edward” walk towards Tony like a bad-ass.
- Tell Tony you are unleashed (basically).
- Everyone in the audience say “I love you, John.”
Problem solved.
Of course, no one expected Tony to solve John’s emotional issues with some light role-play and applause. The whole sequence was superficial (and entertaining).
Still, John clearly has deeper issues around his family. He wasn’t loved enough.
What then?
I wanted John and Tony to go deep.
I wanted to go deep.
I wanted to do the hard work we needed to do.
Then we had to massage our neighbors. Again.
Okay, I understand we need to break through social discomfort and energize ourselves, but I don’t enjoy random dudes touching me.
Hour 7…
I looked at the agenda for the next three days.
Nutrition. Interesting.
Then booklet work.
For two days.
I looked back over my notes.
Sure, there were some great takeaways, like…
Dedicate time every week to work on yourself. Reflect upon whether you are growing, and making progress.
What are you scared of right now? How can you move towards that? Discomfort is your growth!
Success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure.
Look at things from appreciation and gratitude. Instead of complaining about traffic, appreciate that we have cars to get us to places faster.
Modeling is valuable. Study and replicate the people that have already figured out what you want to do.
What’s a goal that excites you? What goal would genuinely energize you immediately?
What distractions are holding you back from your goals? Remove them.
These are his quotes I turned into instagram memes.
“Success is how much uncertainty you can deal with.”
“Your worst day can be your best day”
“Complexity is the enemy of execution.”
“Have hunger that’s insatiable, always expanding.”
It finally hit me. Dread.
I was officially dreading the rest of the seminar.
To stay for three full days felt like a self-imposed prison, rather than an opportunity to genuinely grow.
I thought about what I most wanted to get out of my time, and whether this event was the best use of it. I decided it would be better for me to work on my specific issues, one-on-one with a friend.
So, I walked out.
Did I feel embarrassed? Yes.
Did I feel disappointed? Yes.
But what I really felt, more than anything else…
Empowered.
Empowered to make choices about what I want, and empowered to turn down the things I don’t.
What I Did After I Left
Rather than fly home, I planned a “Personal Development Day.” Here’s what I did the following day:
- Drank coffee
- Went on a 3-hour hike to discuss personal and professional growth with a friend
- 90-minute personal development discussion (recorded on video)
- Ate a healthy lunch
- Reviewed some of Tony’s other materials
- Read a book
- 60-minute discussion with my mastermind group, where I shared some of my biggest issues
- Got a massage
- Sushi dinner
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This may have been the best part about Tony’s personal development seminar — it forced me to create my own.
Final Thoughts
Tony has great intentions, a strong presence, and it’s clear most of his attendees feel the event is worth the investment. I am in the minority, who asked for a refund.
A quick Google search shows his net worth in the several hundreds of millions. So luckily my refund request didn’t break the bank.
For many of his attendees, it seems there are deep-seated issues with a lack of love, and the belief that they are not enough.
If you struggle with those issues, then Tony’s seminars might change your life.
For a few days, you will feel loved.
For a few days, you will feel like you are enough.
That’s intoxicating, and many attendees (understandably) go back for more.
For my friends, the seminar was overwhelmingly positive and deeply moving. For me, it felt superficial and cheesy.
I don’t plan on attending another Tony Robbins’ event. But I would, if his team made a few big changes:
- More time to talk with the people around us. The most valuable time, for me, was when we shared our lives with each other. We all attended for personal development, and we all faced similar challenges. Bonding over common ground was great, and I wish there was more time dedicated to it.
- Shorten the seminar to just ONE day. Less dancing, less hoopla, less fluff… Just get to the meat. We wouldn’t need to be “awakened” every 20 minutes if the event didn’t take so long. (Then again, maybe it’s dragged out to create the sense that we got our money’s worth.)
- Focus. The seminar felt too general. I know it’s impossible to custom-tailor an event for 10,000 people, but more specific topics would have helped.
My good friend Tynan said it best:
“If you never quit, you probably aren’t trying enough new things.”
I don’t regret attending Tony’s seminar.
Nor do I regret walking out.

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2,117 responses to “Why I Walked Out on Tony Robbins (Honest Review)”
did his life mastery in 2001- it was totally awesome – so was usmc boot camp for teh first few minutes and yes it life changing- meeting people form around teh world big shots down to teh homeless – you left early- teh magic happens later on- whne your neighbor is your friend and after session when you at the restraunts etc. with that being said – you are right nothing is fixed in 15 minutes- and he has you jacked into an emotional state- and he is selling green drink books cds etc. his seminars run at a loss- at least they used to- teh cds made him his fortune-. but for those it works is his leadership corps and the volunteers that immerse themselves for months and years getting thier brains washed of every day pollution. for me yea i felt good for a few days-but for teh 20 thousand dollars i lost- plus when you there especially for the longer ones that last over a week- you are just absorbing info for 16 hrs a day- dont go home and get into arguments- i reccomend staying there for a day and let all that info flood back into your brain and long term memory- i got back from south beach date with destiny and my fiance started bitching over and over and over- she was pissed she didnt go to watch over me so she had to ruin and i forgot everthig– until i seen a freinds dream board– ahh got it — away from values and towards values-but it was till ruined- and going back you already know what the process isso..??? he is worth it for those who join the cult- and get into leadership look up petersage story he was one of my coaches- he resides in england multi millionaire- youngest special forces – dude is a total bad ass, but for the average joe- tony just selling mlm gear and making bucks BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED- YOU WOULD HAVE MADE A FEW FRIENDS- AND HAD A GOOD TIME AT THE VERY LEAST- you missed the point
did his life mastery in 2001- it was totally awesome – so was usmc boot camp for teh first few minutes and yes it life changing- meeting people form around teh world big shots down to teh homeless – you left early- teh magic happens later on- whne your neighbor is your friend and after session when you at the restraunts etc. with that being said – you are right nothing is fixed in 15 minutes- and he has you jacked into an emotional state- and he is selling green drink books cds etc. his seminars run at a loss- at least they used to- teh cds made him his fortune-. but for those it works is his leadership corps and the volunteers that immerse themselves for months and years getting thier brains washed of every day pollution. for me yea i felt good for a few days-but for teh 20 thousand dollars i lost- plus when you there especially for the longer ones that last over a week- you are just absorbing info for 16 hrs a day- dont go home and get into arguments- i reccomend staying there for a day and let all that info flood back into your brain and long term memory- i got back from south beach date with destiny and my fiance started bitching over and over and over- she was pissed she didnt go to watch over me so she had to ruin and i forgot everthig– until i seen a freinds dream board– ahh got it — away from values and towards values-but it was till ruined- and going back you already know what the process isso..??? he is worth it for those who join the cult- and get into leadership look up petersage story he was one of my coaches- he resides in england multi millionaire- youngest special forces – dude is a total bad ass, but for the average joe- tony just selling mlm gear and making bucks
You are correct, the best way to digest this type of information is from reading it and applying it to your life yourself. I have studied and applied some of Tony Robbins’ techniques and they are useful. I also know that for some people the type of mass hypnosis seen at the seminars can give them a dopamine rush and help them feel better like we see with churches and synagogues. That groupthink isn’t my bag and sounds like it isn’t yours either. When I’m in those situations and see other people sort of following and buying into it I more and more see myself as an outside observer and get weirded out. Thanks for the article!
After reading your article, I would say I am one of those people that love Tony Robbin’s and am a big fan of his content, I’ve never been to an event, and probably will never be able to afford going to one. But I also want to share that I think you were probably right in the decision to walk out of the seminar.. maybe it’s possible that learned what you wanted to learn, and needed to learn and faster that you expected, and that’s why you thought it wasn’t a good use of your time, I feel like you simply had the epiphany that you needed and were able to move forward with your life.. I hope you got your money back and I hope your life continues to move forward..
TR seems to see extroversion as a magical quality and introversion as a liability that needs changed and changed quickly. He is NOT for everyone for sure! The world needs more introverted deep thinking hermits and less slick surface marketing.
Brilliant! I went to a raw food event a few years back. It cost a pretty penny but on day one I realized they were selling product and claiming wheatgrass juice could cure cancer outright. I was embarrassed to waste money but on the final day I finally left and did a PDD, I had a coffee with oat milk and watched cowspiracy.com to ground myself in my ethics and why I rejected carnism, I took public transport to volunteer at an farmed animal sanctuary for the morning. In the afternoon I went for a hike, read ‘A Progressive’s Case For Bitcoin’ , wrote a love letter to my wife of 23 years, and took a bubble bath while reading my favorite mystical graphic novel. It was the best $ I ever spent!
Noah Kagan — You sound confused. Take a stand.
Nobody makes that kind of money honestly. The emotional manipulation model is dishonest and gross. Maybe 40 years ago a friend tried very hard to get me to fall for one if these grifty orgs, think it may have been called Insight Training. Tony Robbins is manipulative, gross and dishonest.
2018 went to San Jose and 2025 went to Anaheim. I’ve never made it a full day and always left after the 3rd because the 4th day is health/nutrition and I’ve had that dialed in for decades. I LOVED going and plan to go to Miami in November. I went to have an EXPERIENCE. Both times were very different as a year plus before Covid and 5 years after. 2018 San Jose I met a lot of people the first day and we all sat together again the 2nd day. The event mentioned not being next to friends/family and on the 3rd day I let that group know I was going to ‘wander’ the stadium and I moved every 2 hours. Both experiences of meeting a group and bonding and wandering around were both EXCELLENT. I wasn’t even doing much of the work as I felt all that stuff I’ve got on my CD’s back home.
2025 in Anaheim I left after 12 hours and it seeming like it had many more 9am-9pm I was there and the people I talked to said the fire walk was much later, so I was happy to go check into my hotel as I’d changed hotels and get settled. Second day my body was so beat up I went back around 3pm and relaxed at the hotel pool as I knew Tony waqs speaking the next day so I wanted to be ready to stay longer. Now I was getting up early and hitting the gym before the event and running up the stairs when I’d relocate or get food/go to the bathroom. I will start jumping rope 3 months before my next event to prepare myself for that stair experience.
So my goal the next event is to make it all the way through. Not for any reason other than to just do it. I even went down out of the main stadium where I could hear what was happening and would journal the things that were coming up and moving me emotionally. There are many ways to work the energy and for me I like being around 10,000+ people all directing their energies to bettering themselves and the lives of others. cre8gnr8nrg Create Generate Energy =)
I watched his Time to Rise seminar for free and felt the same way. Too much hoopla, and warrior talk. I loved his stories but name drops and the rest kind of annoyed me. Although, i’m going to a business meet up tonight alone, something i never would do, he lit a fire under my ass
I agreed…I thought there was something rong with me that I didn’t feel this huge shift and sensations in my mind..3 days several hours felt long…with no disrespect..a waste of my 4 days ( rise ) seminar…I was disappointed but I was lost with all the story telling thst I have heard repeatedly over 20 yesrs…I can recite his stories from the book awakening the giant with in…which did change my life…way of thinking for 25 years…all great stuff thst I have kept with me and used the tools he gave me ….I was looking gor more knowledge on kno how to change from a to b in personal growth more than storytelling….I did not leave feeling k ess depressed, actually felt a little worse …queen..magician.lover.soviergn…confused me to no end and im fairly intelligent…..I think he is a tremendous humanitarian and has put out tons of great things for people ….I was looking for more direct lines on how to move forward after empty nesting ….
I applaud you for walking out when you realized it was not helpful.
I applaud you for taking a hike and reflecting on the experience.
I applaud your courage to care and share-Thank you Noah!
Your mission going in was to 1. create a work environment that kept you motivated and creative and 2. prep yourself to enjoy a great relationship. Do you look back at your self-guided time and recognize genesis?
I too have mixed feelings about this type of event. During the Covid shutdown, I chose to attend Tony’s online seminar, and I decided to stay at a beautiful ski resort to do it. This way, I wouldn’t disturb my neighbors with my noise making. Well, lo and behold, I didn’t realize that I would be required to be on my feet and dancing around so much. Turns out that I ended up with a serious bout of altitude sickness from overdoing it and not taking in enough oxygen. I was actually crawling to the bathroom and getting sick. And I wish that I would’ve rejected so much movement and just listened (I was yawning a lot as my body was needing more air—omg—my fault for not stopping to fix this). In the end, I had to drive down the mountain while experiencing severe altitude sickness and not being able to turn my head since it cause my head to spin with dizziness. Fortunately, I was able to drive down from 8,000 feet to 4,000 feet safely by following the big rig trucks. When I got out of my truck, I was walking like a drunk—weaving side to side as I struggled to breathe and clear my head. Despite that experience, I think that he had a good message, and has curated a lot of good teachings from numerous helpful sources. It is inspiring, but as you recommended, it is good to take the best advice and then move forward with an intentional practice of personal development days. I like it and have started this practice too!
So thanks.
Hey there Noah Kegan & your opinion, “why I walked out of Tony Robbins ….”As a nonpartisan researcher and reviews and complaints of Tony Robbins seminars you appear to be similar to Tony in some ways You don’t say that you have a fee for your advice and you also don’t say that you are the millionaire next-door , so to speak , and offer your expertise to the common folk with no strings attached . I would like to communicate with you by e-mail or in person . I look forward to hear from you .
There is something deeply disturbing on Tony Robbins for me. I just feel it in my gut whenever I see him. He seems like typical guru going for money.
I can see why you walked out- I would have as well. Everything i have read about these seminars remind me of a cult like meeting- dance,active participants, video display,persuasive speaker, excited following. This seems like a New Age positive thinking outlook- nothing wrong with that but yeah I would feel uncomfortable as I am an INFJ- google that- all the best to you
Tony leaves out the most important thing in life. God. I’d be more inclined to follow Dave Ramsey and lived at free then to sell everything I own to buy a $10,000 ticket to hear someone talk. I think our primary purpose on this Earth is love and help others. The more you make, the more you can help. That’s my pattern to live by. but my goal is Heaven, not bragging about being being a billionaire.
You are right, UPW doesn’t go super deep unless you are in bad enough shape to get tonnes from it. Date with destiny or one of the other courses is better for you once you have identified areas that need more work- eg health/ relationships mastery. Date with destiny goes much deeper and is absolutely exhausting because you are so busy being hard at work yoh would not notice his clapping. There is a reason for it by the way. But you weren’t curious enough yet to discover why!
I do think you should be proud of yourself for not letting the fact that you spent a lot of money and left even though. You followed your heart and didn’t think this was the right situation for you to grow even more and left. I would have done the same exact thing. Sometimes you need to say no to a situation that perhaps everyone else would say yes to.
I think you should be proud of yourself for not letting the fact that you spent a lot of money and left even though. You followed your heart and didn’t think this was the right situation for you to grow even more and left. I would have done the same exact thing. Sometimes you need to say no to a situation that perhaps everyone else would say yes to.
I really liked and related to this article because I have done it myself. I do not like Tony Robbins or any of his material now. It is all generic, non-helpful hype which is lapped up by dumb people and then promoted by those people so that they can justify the crazy sums of money they spend on these useless events. I had a friend who badly burnt his feet at the fire walk and bragged about his war wounds like a badge of honor. I asked for a refund too and they tried to talk me out of it but I was there for 3 hours after I had travelled from Malaysia to get there. Biggest disappointment of my life. I have no idea to this day how he still has a following of any kind. Not a single shred of integrity or substance to anything he does. Apart from that he is great!
It’s true. The dude has a weird clapping style.
Thanks for sharing. I am attending UPW this weekend. It came with my coaching package so I figured why not. And I am doing the virtual event so no travel. It’s been a few years since you went. They do have breakout sessions to discuss goals, needs, etc. and you are always with different people. But there were no breaks at all the first day. 1:00-2:00 was “team building” with our team 8 trainee-waste of time hearing everyone’s “why” and I can’t believe how many people are suicidal or recovering from real trauma. A bit depressing to start the day. Tony didn’t walk out until 2:00 pm. They told us last week it would be 9-5. Well, no. The schedule is “flexible” based solely on Tony. And it’s Pacific Time, I’m in FL. I could have actually treated patients and not had total loss of income for 2.5 days. Staying up until 1:30 AM, no breaks for over 12 hours was ridiculous. Tony took breaks. We didn’t. I agree the whole thing could be done in less time. I skipped the board breaking and went to bed at 1:30 am (after being up since 4:30 am). And I’m a 2nd deg Black Belt and have broken much bigger boards. It’s not hard. My husband told me TR is a cult and was pissed about how late it ran. I’m not sure what I will do rest of the event. I will probably sign off a few hours and be more productive with my day. Three more 10-12 hour days of aerobics and screaming with intermittent content? I am skeptical. And yes, his clap is weird, and his voice is challenging (I am compassionate about this issue of damaged vocal cords). I do like sessions with my TR coach, but I won’t attend another event. I have gained some insight into overcoming my issues and staying more focused to grow my business. But I got most of this from my coach and other readings/teachings already. I can’t believe people attend more than one of these events! I appreciate your insights and just wanted to share my own experience.
Thank you for this. I don’t think it’s for after reading this. I’m a bottom line person and all the fluff would drive me crazy. I was thinking about attending a Joe Dispenza retreat. I do a lot of meditation and have to say, it has changed my life. No more people pleasing. Glad I found this article and hope Tony doesn’t pull his business from you. Thank you!
I did 3 day event in August with Sage and within couple days decided download app since signed up for experience in October. Problems from get go with customer service so asked refund and cancel asap.sent 2 email asking 4 refund. Got 2 replies saying within 2 days be back in my account . Week later nothing returned . 2 calls too nobody answer phone. Even text Tony on # found on Google yesterday. No response. $275 paid down and another due. Can file claim BBB, seems easy to fix , I can stop second payment? Bad business to me.
I appreciate this. I love that you kept it real. I actually just signed of for the coaching sessions (6months).